Britain's Most Accurate Medium with Gordon Smith
November 11, 2023
About Gordon Smith
With a career spanning over 3 decades, Gordon Smith has been hailed by the UK’s media as “Britain’s most accurate medium”. Having written successful columns for British newspapers and leading magazines such as the Daily Record, the Sunday People, Best Magazine, Spirit & Destiny and Take A Break (where he currently has a column dealing with loss and mediumship), there is no doubt that Gordon Smith is the ‘Real Deal’.
Internationally recognized as one of the world’s leading psychic mediums and admired by his peers, this Spiritual teacher, Public Figure and Author has an impressive 23 books published to-date. His last three titles were published by leading publishers Hodder & Stoughton under their Crown Imprint and all were published in both hardcopy and paperback. Gordon has earned the reputation as being an authentic all-round expert in spiritual awareness and psychic studies.
Gordon’s accuracy as a medium, has been subject to several years of testing at Glasgow University by emeritus professor Archie Roy - Head of The Scottish Society of Psychical research, whose findings were published in three scientific journals.
Links & Resources
Website for Gordon Smith: www.GordonSmithMedium.com
UK Link - Books by Gordon Smith: www.GordonSmithMedium.com/books
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Dr. Lotte [00:00:00] Welcome to Dr. Lotte: Science with Soul, the podcast that transcends the boundaries between science and spirituality. I'm Dr. Lotte, your host, Physician, Medical and Psychic Medium, Ancestral Healer, Keynote Speaker and Award-Winning Author of Med School After Menopause The Journey of My Soul. This podcast finds its roots in my own extraordinary life experiences. Through my personal odyssey, I have discovered our profound connection within a divine tapestry of existence. I have traversed the realms of illness, healing and transformation, propelled by two Near-Death Out-of-Body Experiences that bestowed upon me the extraordinary gifts of clairvoyance, clairaudience, and clairsentience. Guided by this sacred calling, I embraced the pursuit of medical school at the age of 54. Prepare to be uplifted, transformed, and awakened to create a path to healing your own life physically, emotionally, and spiritually by bridging the gap between science and soul.
Dr. Lotte [00:01:20] Welcome to Dr. Lotte Science the Soul, I'm Dr. Lotte and the host of this podcast. Today, I am so excited to have a very special guest all the way from Scotland, and his name is Gordon Smith and he is a world famous Medium. So all you people out there that are interested in Mediumship and what Mediumship is, tune in because this is going to be a very special episode. So let me read Gordon's bio so that you get a little bit of a background on who he is. With a career spanning over three decades, Gordon has been hailed as the United Kingdom's media as the "Britain's most accurate Medium," and having written successful columns for British newspapers and leading magazines such as The Daily Record, The Sunday People, Best Magazine, Spirit and Destiny, and Take A Break where he currently has a column dealing with loss and mediumship. There is no doubt that Gordon Smith is the real deal internationally recognized as one of the world's leading psychic mediums and admired by his peers, this Spiritual Teacher, Public Figure and Author, has an impressive 23 books published to-date. His last three titles were published by leading publishers Hodder & Stoughton under their Crown Imprint, and all were published in both hardcopy and paperback. Gordon has earned a reputation as being an authentic all-around expert in spiritual awareness and psychic studies. Gordon's accuracy as a medium has been subject to several years of testing at Glasgow University by emeritus professor Archie Roy, Head of The Scottish Society of Physical Research, whose findings were published in three scientific journals. So welcome, Gordon. It's such an honor to have you as a guest today.
Gordon Smith [00:03:21] That just sounds like a whole long introduction, and I didn't realize I had done so many things, but it's cool.
Dr. Lotte [00:03:30] Right? I know. It's like, wow, I did all that?
Gordon Smith [00:03:34] And much more, Lotte. Much more than that.
Dr. Lotte [00:03:36] Right, exactly! Much more! And I mean, it's an impressive amount of books. So how did you how did you end up on this Mediumship trail? Did it start in your childhood or how did it come about?
Gordon Smith [00:03:49] Yeah, I mean, as a child, I had episodes of seeing the future, reporting it to my parents and they would be kind of blown away. Of course, the future hasn't yet happened, but when it did, they'd think how in the earth is this seven year/eight year old boy able to do this? Being Scottish, we are quite kind of old old-y world-y. So when I was born, I was the seventh son of the seventh son. Now in Scotland or Ireland, maybe Wales, you would be seen as being a gifted child. You had the "Sight" they called it. So when I was born, an Irish nurse who delivered me said, "Oh, this one has the sight." So I mean, this adds nice things when I write books that I'm the seventh son of a seventh son, I don't know that it means anything. But for me, a lot of these episodes started when I was a kid and disappeared for a while. And when I was 21, a colleague of mine and the hairdressing salon where we worked, her brother died in a fire, and the moment he died he appeared in my bedroom and that was the first ever experience like that I'd had as an adult and he was a full blown, materialized person standing where I can see him now. His arms folded, one shoulder down, smiling and the starting shot and he just disappeared. And I learned later that morning that he had actually died in the middle of the night in a fire. And I saw him smiling and happy. So that was the beginning of my journey as an adult. I ended up going to church in Glasgow, Spiritualist Church, and as soon as I sat down, the Medium who was working said, "Oh my God, you're a Medium!" And I'm looking, "Who's she talking to?" And it was me and this lady who was a wonderful Medium, Mary Duffy. And she said, "Son, in five years time, or maybe just beyond, you're going to be standing where I'm standing now. You're going to be doing what I'm doing, and you're going to travel the world." And I did all of that five years almost to the day I ended up there. And I have traveled almost all over the world as a Medium working. So, yeah. Quite a journey.
Dr. Lotte [00:05:58] Wow, yeah. What a journey. And when you saw this man standing in your bedroom, how old were you?
Gordon Smith [00:06:05] 21.
Dr. Lotte [00:06:06] 21.
Gordon Smith [00:06:12] Yeah.
Dr. Lotte [00:06:12] And so that's really when things began. But you had had these experiences as a child.
Gordon Smith [00:06:13] Yeah, well, at the age of 21, I started to investigate because as a child, I didn't know I was different or I had something different. Children do something like that and then go and play with some friends in the garden so it doesn't play on your mind. You don't have logic as a child, you just carry on regardless next episode. But as an adult, obviously it's in your head. You have to go in and work out. So I learned how to try to be grounded in my approach. How how can I find out about this? So I worked with Professor Roy because I thought to have a scientific connection is nice. And I phoned a little spiritual development group in Glasgow run by Mrs. Jean Primrose, and she taught me how to meditate and she taught me how to. She said to me, "I can't teach you to be a Medium. Nobody can." She said, "But what I can teach you is to be a person worth using mediumship." I find that fascinating. She said "The gift is there. You don't need to learn the gift. You need to learn how to operate as a a good human being, somebody who cares for people. Then your gift actually is a gift." You know. So she trained the man, not the medium.
Dr. Lotte [00:07:22] Yeah, that's fascinating. So now a lot of people, you know, teach Mediumship. Do you think that anybody can learn to connect to some degree with the spirit world?
Gordon Smith [00:07:33] Yeah, I do. I think I think what it is, Lotte, we all have another sense, but understanding all the senses is important, as a medium. So I think we can develop people to a better sense of awareness of the senses. And in that part of that, you're able to pick up atmospheric, you know, emotions and things like that. And that's where I've often likened it to a radio, so if it's me and you in a room and I'm sensitive, then I sense your energy, your, not just your energy that word's used too much. I sense the atmosphere around you. So in your atmosphere, you may be feeling nervous, you may be feeling whatever. So I may think, "Oh my god, I feel that." Now for me, that's like a radio on AM band. But as a medium, you go up to FM. So all of a sudden, in the same atmosphere, I've got your mother. Oh, your mother's here. And she wants you to know the da da da da da. So you're just learning how to work the frequency. And that's really how it feels to be. So I can teach people how to remain quiet enough to observe the spirit, not to react to many people close their eyes, see something, go, "I got a message." No. We learn how to quieten everything down so that we feel it. The presence, that spirit feel it. Then pictures will form in your mind. That's your clairvoyance starting. You may have an inner dialog which could be a clairaudience and clairsentience would be how you feel, the actual conditions of the spirit being who's who's now in your atmosphere. So it can be done and if somebody has got the aptitude to become a Medium, a working Medium, you will know very quickly. You really will.
Dr. Lotte [00:09:18] So when you work as a Medium, so you're talking about clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentience. Do you see most of the spirit world or hear it or feel it? Or how does it work for you?
Gordon Smith [00:09:30] I think for me, the first thing is I get a sense that the atmosphere is changing. So like last week I was working in Austria, so you got a translator. So I'm working in English, being translated to Austrian or German. So I feel the change. Somebody is here. So I talk. And then before I know it, and for a moment, I am the person. I am a mother. My name is Elizabeth. Da da da da da. And then I say that and point to someone, "this is your mother." and they go, "Oh my god, that's my mother!" and I say "Yes" and then I'll hear. But I hear, like, another conversation, "Your mother's telling me, but not in my ear. In here, I hear it. And on occasion, I see, I'm not a bit clairvoyant, but on occasion I see imagery or symbology sometimes. Every message is different Lotte no matter who you sit for. I feel it rotates, because the spirits are different. Some do make really kind of brash on the entry, others are very timid. So you having if you like, use all your senses to detect. How is it best to describe this person? Is visually, is audibly, is it sensing? So. So you have to work with all your senses, I would say.
Dr. Lotte [00:10:45] Do you have, so you've been doing this for a very long time. Are there any readings that you remember or that you carry with you in your heart, that not only changed your client's life, but maybe also affected you, and you know you have fond memories or there's something that came through for you?
Gordon Smith [00:11:04] Yeah. I mean, I'm lucky that I get to work with people and I get to heal, do healing if you if you like, because I think it's the most beautiful thing you take away from a situation is that you see people who are completely broken and they have no other route to walk down. You are the last resort. And I remember being with a couple not that long ago, a couple of years ago. Man and wife, they'd never seen a medium and somebody connected us together and I remember it took about three months before we could arrange this. And when I got to them, I realized why they needed that time was not for the boy in the spirit world to get a message through. It was for the parents to come through enough of their grief to actually hear it. In the very early days of grief such as theirs, it would create a body of ignorance that the spirit world couldn't get through. So all of this time elapsed. They got their gift. The evidence that you give to support that they lost the boy's name, all the things ,where he died. He didn't die in this country. Actually died in Spain. Give us the name of his little hometown, a little tiny place I'd never heard of. All this wonderful stuff. And the most important thing was for his mom, and there was just a moment where I could feel the joy of the lad, letting his mom know "I'm not dead". But then he said, "Mom" and it was my words came out of me. "Mom, go home. Stop sleeping on my grave." And you could feel it and the man, her husband, just burst into tears. That was what he was there for, and his son knew and he reported it. "Mom, go home. Stop sleeping on my grave." And the father said, "I want my wife back." And in that moment, I learned such a lot about grief, about loss. And you think you need to be able to understand the stuff, if you're gonna work with heart-heartbroken people. So that for me showed, the observation the boy is not dead. He can see what's happening in his mom's life. It gives the lady the sense of, "Oh my God, if he can see that, he's truly with me." So it kind of warmed me when I left, I could hear the dad as I walked away I heard the dad and he was kind of laughing and still gets me laughing and crying as he walked away and he just said "We spoke to our boy. It was just surreal. We spoke to our boy!" It was like, "Yes!" And that just filled my heart. I thought, "Yes, if I do nothing else, I've done a good thing today." So.
Dr. Lotte [00:13:37] Yeah, it's like life changing. I mean, life changing for the clients, but also life changing for you because it's -
Gordon Smith [00:13:43] Yeah.
Dr. Lotte [00:13:43] Yeah. It warms your heart as well to see that you can provide that -
Gordon Smith [00:13:47] It really does.
Dr. Lotte [00:13:48] That healing for those people. When, I know that in what, you've written so many books - laughter- I don't even know which one to bring up, but -
Gordon Smith [00:13:57] I've got alot of words - laughter.
Dr. Lotte [00:13:59] Right! So it's but a question that I get often working with people because I'm a physician, but I'm also medical intuitive and. And you know why, why do bad things, so you have a book called Why Do Bad Things Happen? And that's a question I get a lot. Why is it that, you know, my husband passed away? Why is it that I'm struggling with chronic disease? You know, why do bad things happen? Do you think that there is any kind of predetermined or predestined part to our lives where we came to have certain experiences?
Gordon Smith [00:14:37] Yeah. I mean, and again, it's my understanding it's not law and I'm not God, but through the work that I do and through the experiences I've had Lotte, I've come to understand that what we call the bad things, a lot of bad things happen to people when they're not aware of what they're doing, so they don't see themselves walking towards a particular situation. People are going to die and we have no control over that, really, up to a point we don't. So when people die, it's not to harm us. That's not some karmic payback. That's just death. That's the end of a life. As a medium, I see that as a freedom from this world. So I see that as a good thing. They've gone home. So your husband is going home? We prepare something beautiful whenever you arrive. So I look at it like that. But the bad things themselves are the things that we really learn from. And we say bad things, but they're sad things. They can be naughty things that we've done and we know we shouldn't do, but we're human. So to come out of this human experience limits us from your spiritual being so as the human being that's harmed, the human being that suffers. And I think the Buddha, just looking at the painting behind me and talking about ending suffering. So to end suffering means you don't come back here. So we come here to suffer. Now, that may sound awful, but in actual fact, if you are a spirit for all eternity and you are completely free, surely you would want to have a go at being confined, contained, held down individual. Because the moment you go back to that, you know, "whole", you're no longer. You know once you're back in the universe or consciousness, your individuality is is part of the whole. So this as an incredible experience and I'm not somebody that does all that happy stuff. And I'm not, I'm a realist, but I do know that the biggest things that happened in my own life have taught me more. Then it's harder to remember some of the happy moments than as the devastating ones. Their the ones you carry, their the ones that build you. But if you are of the type of person you grow through them, and it becomes a flag you carry and say, "Look, I can help people because I know what I'm talking about." So yeah, I think it's partly predestined, but I do believe we've got choice. I think we come to junctions of time in our life, where you get that I call it my class moment, "Should I stay or should I go?" And you think and that's yours. That's so freewill has to exist at some point in your life. But there's also predestiny that gets you to the choice of free will. And then free will takes you on another timeline. So instead of going left, you go right. And there are potential endings. I think there are many potential endings. If you stay on path A, you'll probably pass a bit passed B. But if you actually jump the junctions, you'll have a varied life, and um, I'm kind of glad I've done that.
Dr. Lotte [00:17:43] I love that. I love that analogy. It's very similar to my own, I think that it's a combination of free will.
Gordon Smith [00:18:25] Yeah.
Dr. Lotte [00:18:25] But that certain things are predestined.
Gordon Smith [00:18:25] Absolutely.
Dr. Lotte [00:18:25] So from my own near-death experience, I've been told that it's in my astrological chart and there are certain patterns that they can see and when people that have those experiences. So you know, part of our life must be predestined or we signed up for it, but then we get the free will you know, "What am i going to eat for dinner tonight?" I probably have free will, but, right? Laughter. Or you know, if you marry this person or you marry that person. But I think it's different. You know, it's just different for different people. What is predetermined to have certain experience.
Gordon Smith [00:18:25] I also believe though the more you grow consciously so in this life if you believe that you've consciously grown, and I love your dog and I'm such an animal person, but um. If you grow spiritually, I don't know not so much spiritually, but consciously and you start to become more aware. I would imagine that you have a little bit more say and how you predetermine episodes in the next life. If we are to understand karma correctly, who we are know is a result of what we've done before. So if you like yourself now and you feel your life's okay, you've done something to achieve that. It didn't just happen. But that will equally grow into something totally different the next time. But you've already risen to a level of karma that unless you create bad karma or pick up some really daft things, you're going to be there and you have a choice. And I believe that's what happens, whereas when somebody is very closed, they run into things all the time. Why do bad things keep happening? Because they don't learn from it. So people stay on the same wheel, that wheel of life and keep saying, one of my colleagues in the hairdressers. Hairdressing is a world where you learn everything Lotte. Really, - laughter. One of my friends there she kept marrying really bad guys and at some point I said to her, "Are you sure that you know, it's the men that need to learn? What do you need to learn? Third bad marriage, aggressive men who harm you, you need to start looking at your role in this because these men are just attracted to you, so you need to change you." And she did. She learned. So again, that maybe be something she never needs to experience again, but she had to experience it until she actually said, "Enough. I need to grow from this." And I think really life's like, learn your lessons, grow from them and and then enjoy.
Dr. Lotte [00:20:21] Yes. You mentioned karma as well and what that pattern and the energy that keeps coming back. I mean, it's a lot that I work with and ancestral healing and -
Gordon Smith [00:21:00] Yeah.
Dr. Lotte [00:21:00] People that came before us, the people that come after us and the patterns and the energy that repeats are at times a very karmic, right?
Gordon Smith [00:21:00] Yes.
Dr. Lotte [00:21:00] It's like the emotions that unresolved patterns and issues of our ancestors mom, dad, grandma, grandpa, aunts and uncles. And sometimes it's the same pattern when I work with people that you point out, you have this pattern you married or you attracting to these people?
Gordon Smith [00:21:00] Yes.
Dr. Lotte [00:21:00] "Tell me about your mom. Who was she attracted to?".
Gordon Smith [00:21:00] Exactly.
Dr. Lotte [00:21:01] "Dad was the same thing. Oh. Tell me about your grandma." And the pattern is just, it's almost karmic that.
Gordon Smith [00:21:06] Yeah, you know, it's almost like there's a spiritual DNA your final body carries. And that's why you were attracted to your parents that karmically, or if you want to call it some kind of spiritual chemistry or DNA attracts us to types so that we can actually have the experience we are aiming at. In Tibetan Buddhism, for instance, you are attracted to your opposite gender parent for your lessons in this life. I don't know if you were aware of that, but so you would be attracted to your father to come in, to learn lessons from him. Not that you want them from your mom, but he would be the the light that drew you. For me, it would be my mom. My mom was a very tough woman. I was a very sensitive, weak child. So when I look, I learned strength from my mom. My dad was a kind, compassionate man, strong enough man, but my mom was strength. And I, I had to learn to toughened up because I was too sensitive. So I realized I needed a tough parent who could protect me, but also who I could learn strength, how to be strong. So I look at that and think, wow, and many other DNA things that I would've picked up from both parents. But I'm sure that there's a spiritual DNA that travels karmically with groups of people.
Dr. Lotte [00:22:29] I love that. I love the spiritual DNA. I always-
Gordon Smith [00:22:31] Yeah, I do.
Dr. Lotte [00:22:32] You know, I call it the grid, the invisible grid. You know, think quantum physics. We are, we are connected to our ancestors. Whether you met them or not in your life, they could have passed before you were born. Doesn't matter.
Gordon Smith [00:22:45] You know one of the things I found out really that taught me that I went to a little island, some few years back off the west coast of Scotland, an island called Mull, and there's another one called Iona. And these are two very beautiful old islands I'd never been, and as soon as I walked on to Mull, I thought, "Oh my God" I literally connected to the ground. I thought, "This is my home. I've been here." And I didn't know. Was this a past life? No, no, no. What is this? We did some research, and my both my great grandparents were born on Mull and Iona, and going back, all generations of my family lived there and were artists, crafts makers, and I do arts and crafts in this life. And I think, "Oh my god, you even feel the connection to the land that you're you've been in or your family have been in." So there's something special about that. Going back to a land that was once occupied by your grandparents, great grandparents. And again, it told me there was marked stains of their spiritual DNA there, that that lit up when I went onto the island.
Dr. Lotte [00:23:53] Absolutely. I hear you. You know you're connected to that. It's it's all part of who you are. But we can't quite put our thumb on it because we don't really have a science to back up or prove it.
Gordon Smith [00:24:05] But, you know, I think we will soon. Your medical Lotte aren't you? So your medical.
Dr. Lotte [00:24:57] Yeah I'm a physician also.
Gordon Smith [00:24:57] I believe that and spirit have told me many times, that the new science going forward will all be to do with consciousness and the study of consciousness. And I totally believe that it will be because consciousness is the undiscovered country really in science, and it needs to lose its religious stigma and actually be something that's universally open and not seen as woo woo. It's actually something that is should be practiced and taught to be conscious and consciousness as a growth of every action you do and take. And then if we taught children that and they realize very young, their actions have consequences. This pure Buddhism, Buddhism 101, but for children, the world would be a much better place very quick, I'd think.
Dr. Lotte [00:24:57] I couldn't agree more! You know, how do we do we? I mean that's part of my work is to, you know, bring awareness to you know, when we talk about healing people, it doesn't matter if it's greed -
Gordon Smith [00:25:31] No It doesn't.
Dr. Lotte [00:25:31] Or if it's chronic illness -
Gordon Smith [00:25:31] It doesn't.
Dr. Lotte [00:25:31] Right? Because we are not just a physical being, and Western Medicine will just give you medications which, which are good.
Gordon Smith [00:25:31] Yes, of course.
Dr. Lotte [00:25:31] It allows people to continue working and not feel pain and all those things. But you're not going to heal it.
Gordon Smith [00:25:31] No.
Dr. Lotte [00:25:31] In order to heal it, you have to work on all different levels because we are so much more than just the physical body.
Gordon Smith [00:25:31] Absolutely.
Dr. Lotte [00:25:32] Which you just proved.
Gordon Smith [00:25:34] That's the, well again that for me as I grew older um, and hopefully a little bit wiser, I realized that the messages that I give had to be loud and in people's faces accurate! Real names of people, streets, towns where they were born, houses they lived, and all this stuff would come and various other things. And I realize it was almost Spirit's way of doing a propaganda meeting to get people to come in, but then you start to do the deeper work. The message is just the same it's just come in, but then the message has to go deeper and you have to say, "Who am I? How did I get here? Why am I here? What is my purpose?" And so on and so forth. And then these different departments of your mind began to open up slowly to the light, and that's the true journey. So as I get older, I feel my work is touching the more spiritual parts of consciousness, and I do less and less messages these days and more teaching. And I feel I can reach more people by saying, "You can't die for the life of you." As simple as as. But your life force will go on and when you know that you lose your fear of living, and to lose that fear of living, lose your fear of dying, but then that means that you will lose your fear of living. So lose the fear of death and you lose the fear of life. And that's the whole idea. We don't die. We can't die for the life of us.
Dr. Lotte [00:27:04] Yeah, I know you also wrote books about animals, and I want to make sure we touch on on the animals as well.
Gordon Smith [00:27:19] Yes.
Dr. Lotte [00:27:20] I know you wrote two books about animales.
Gordon Smith [00:27:20] Yeah.
[00:27:20] And let's see, one was Animal Magic, and the other one was somewhat another book you wrote earlier, Amazing Power of Animals.
Gordon Smith [00:27:27] They're actually the same book retitled years later.
Dr. Lotte [00:27:33] So tell me, do you do you often get animals coming through when you do a mediumship reading?
Gordon Smith [00:27:38] Yes.
Dr. Lotte [00:27:38] And do they give you a message or feelings to you? Is it the same the same way that you get a message from a person?
Gordon Smith [00:27:47] Yes.
Dr. Lotte [00:27:47] Do they also convey messages. You know, "I love the way you gave me this kibble" or?
Gordon Smith [00:27:52] Yeah, yeah. I mean, it depends on the medium for myself, you tend to want to start a reading with shooting into somebody who's past. But often I've started "I'm sorry I'm just going to have to tell you. There's a Rottweiler sitting at my side and somebody will go, "Oh! Oh my god, it's my dog!" And maybe I'll pick up the name of the dog, it's name was whatever and then you would carry on and say, "Oh my, the dog is making me aware, not telling me the dog is making me aware that you lay beside him before he died and you held him and you told him it was okay to go" and I'll hear her words she gave the dog. And she add "Oh, was the last conversation we had." And I think there was a lovely one recently with an old gentleman in Switzerland where he tracked me down for god knows what, how I got there, I don't know. And sat with him, I assumed elderly man, your logic comes in, probably lost people close to da-de-da-de-da. You don't want to think like that. But immediately it wasn't. It was a beautiful tall Weimaraner a dog. And I said, You've lost a Weimaraner dog and his name is Pongo. And the man just cried, and I said "he's here, and he tells me, you've built a memorial to him in your garden out here." And he said, "I arrived yesterday" And I said, "The dog's really happy." Well, that you could have given that man anything. You know, nothing would have been worth what you just got in that message. And he said "It was my fault." I said "It wasn't your fault. Your dog was killed by a train. But it wasn't your fault." And he said, "You know that?!" I said, "No, the dogs know that. The dog's fine. The dog's absolutely fine. It's not heartbroken anything. That's the body. The spirit is free." And he's like, "How can you talk to dogs?" I says "I don't. They talk to me. Different thing." But yeah, there's a sensitivity, a connection you have, because I love animals. So animals are safe around me, even in the wild. So.
Dr. Lotte [00:29:47] Wow, that's such a great story. And so when you do readings, do the animals just spontaneously show up and say, "Oh, you know, here there's a little white dog here."
Gordon Smith [00:29:57] Yeah!
Dr. Lotte [00:29:58] Yeah.
Gordon Smith [00:29:58] I mean, it can be anything. It can be, as I say, it can be mid-reading, you're reading for somebody who's lost a son and you say, "Oh, there's a little golden terrier beside him" and "Oh! he's got the dog!" "Yes!" So again, but why would it not? When you think that all living beings are consciousness, consciousness, when this physical consciousness shuts down, the spirit has to go somewhere. And animals that have connected to you with a bond of love, that same bond of love is what pulls you together. And when we die, we get drawn with that bond of love to the people we've loved. Genuinely loved you. You know, and it's that that's really what as we go right back in, you have beautiful connectivity again with people, animals, anywhere we felt love as a home for a spirit.
Dr. Lotte [00:30:51] Wow. This is so, so amazing. I know that, you know, animals do come through. And it's just fascinating because it's so heartwarming. I mean, there's and also proves the survival for people who are skeptics and are not sure. You know, they're doing their first reading and they know they're not sure. So oh what was my next question? There's so many things I want to talk about and but for the mediumship. So I know you wrote also wrote a lot of books on mediumship and how to do that. So for people who are listening, they're thinking, you know, "I always wanted to learn. I always wanted to connect with my loved one, you know, my child, my partner, my mom, or whatever in the spirit world." I know you wrote several books on that as well.
Gordon Smith [00:31:42] I did.
Dr. Lotte [00:31:42] Do you have a favorite book to recommend to the peole who would want to-
Gordon Smith [00:31:47] I do. I think more of teaching book probably "Intuitive Studies", but probably my favorite book on mediumship is the "Unbelievable Truth." It was the second book that I wrote for Hay House, and it's been probably my best selling book, it just keeps selling, because there's a lot of logic and clearing up misconceptions. A lot of people are afraid to go towards mediumship because of stories they've been told, misconceptions about what mediums do. Often when I was very young, in my twenties, late twenties, and going on television shows and things, and sometimes I'd travel with maybe an older friend, a woman, nobody ever assumed I was the medium. They always assumed my friend who was going through the menopause looked more like a medium than I did. She was hot and bothered! People used to say "Well, you must be the medium." And she said "No. It's him!" Because that was their idea of a medium, a middle aged woman, an older woman. And so for me, it was great to be so grounded and teach people, look, not everything you see about mediums is true. You got to do your research, got to be a bit grounded with all of us as well, don't just go off the planet. Keep grounded, but let your heart search for the spirit world. And and I think I loved and I still love "Unbelievable Truths" because there's a measure of logic that keeps people balanced. There's a good a lot of reality checks, and I think we need that when we're on any spiritual path to stop and pause and see "what am I doing? Am I still on the right track?" So so yeah, definitely "Unbelievable Truth", I would say good book.
Dr. Lotte [00:33:25] Well, that's great. And do you teach for people who would like to learn mediumship? Do you teach mediumship? Do you have online classes or in-person classes?
Gordon Smith [00:33:35] I do! I do lots of online classes, which people probably find on my website. But I also work for a company in Switzerland called Unity, and we run an online academy. And that academy basically is teaching you from the start, from the very nothing thing, just how you sit and relax, because a lot of people go and try to be a medium and they don't know how to relax and they actually are agitated. So you have to get them past that. Forget meditation, get relaxation. Then we teach them how to meditate. Then we teach them how to self process. Because if you're a medium that your head's full of anxieties, you own anxieties can spill out in somebody's message. So this is where Mrs. Primrose taught me heal the guy fix the guy. The mediumship will come in authentically if the mind is balanced. So I do teach things like that, and then I'll teach them, how what a message, what's the what's of a message? A Message is healing. You not there to predict the lottery numbers for people. You're not there unless that is your path. I don't know. But for me, it's never been always been to to heal, to to bring balance and healing to people and also give them that knowledge of life after death. Life after this death, that life will go on and on and on. So it's very hopeful. So it's, again, teaching people the right way to tune in. Why are you doing who you do it to impress people or are you doing it to help people? So so I do I like to, again, be as balanced as I can when I teach.
Dr. Lotte [00:35:09] I love the the when you said, you know to get the right lottery ticket or. But there are people that think that mediumship is is that. But it's all about it's all about the healing the healing between the client and the person that's coming in in the spirit world.
Gordon Smith [00:35:27] Yeah.
Dr. Lotte [00:35:28] When you work, do you um, the spirits just come in or do you often get people saying, "Oh, I'd like to talk to, you know, Bob?" Or do you or did the spirits, you know, choose who is going to talk to them or do you then say "Hello? Bob, are you there?"
Gordon Smith [00:35:46] Well, I've been trained that I will work, first of all, with my own spirit guide, so I'll feel the presence of my guide and then I know it's okay to work. If I don't feel him show up, no reading, that's it. Not doing it that day. So when I feel the presence of spirit, then I think we're on. Okay. And then I allow them to control who's coming through. So people may come, I mean, I've had in my life so many people who have asked me sit and bring through celebrities such as Elvis, Princess Diana, Michael Jackson, Freddie Mercury goes on and on and on. And unless you actually have a direct connection to them, mediumship won't work, if it did it would be very limited. It's that loving bond that makes mediumship work or, unfinished business. If there was if people died in an argument. I remember reading for a gentleman in Germany and he and his wife died in mid-flight. The wife died while they were fighting. And he brought, I did the reading obviously was sad as well, but he needed to conclude this to let them know how his heart felt, that it didn't mean horror and things and so there's got to be a good reason for it to work that well. So just saying, well, let's bring in JFK. That's not going to work, if you've got a couple of Kennedys in front of you. You may have a chance. Laughter.
Dr. Lotte [00:37:09] That's a great explanation, because I feel many times people think when they talk about mediumship, they think it's like a cell phone connection.
Gordon Smith [00:37:16] I know.
Dr. Lotte [00:37:16] And it's like dialed athe number and, you know, I'm going to call Bob in the spirit world! But it doesn't work that way. And so it's always so nice to have well-respected people like you to explain that to people, because I feel also that people don't really understand sometimes what mediumship is. And you explain it so well, it's all about the healing.
Gordon Smith [00:37:37] Yeah.
Dr. Lotte [00:37:37] Yeah.
Gordon Smith [00:37:38] And in my world I don't when people say to me can something negative happen? No, I've done this for 40 years of my life. Almost 40 years. Never once have I come across anything like that. I've seen people who are afraid. Spirits are not stock animals, and nothing like that happens. This is all Hollywood and it's all very, you know, Stephen King and things like that. Books and ideas, in reality we die and our energy just goes, that's that we're off. The memories we leave behind are the hauntings. I have a famous saying, "There's no such thing as a haunted house, just haunted people." If you remove the people from that house, it's fine. You may have an atmosphere, but no. Spirits don't get stuck in houses, people do.
Dr. Lotte [00:38:23] Right, so so about haunted houses, the, when people get, you know, they're very-
Gordon Smith [00:38:28] Yeah.
Dr. Lotte [00:38:29] Abnormal activity happening. Things are falling off the shelves in the kitchen. And is that a spirit that's visiting or a spirit that's just hanging out in this dimension?
Gordon Smith [00:38:38] No, I don't think it's anything to do with spirit at all. I think if anything, it's it's real activity. Things falling off shelves and kitchens is gravity, things jumping onto shelves. That's paranormal activity. So I actually with the professor at Glasgow Uni and some others, we went to many of these cases and the people genuinely were afraid. We didn't go in and poo-poo their ideas of what they were experience never, we went in as healers. But we always find a logical explanation. As a Medium, I wanted phenomena. But it was all psychology, most of it. And you could understand why because when fear begins to build in a house, that's what you're aiming at, not a spirit. It's the fear. The anxiety becomes tangible. And that's where you get telekinesis and things like that from, we call it poltergeist, but once again, it's misrepresented that word. A poltergeist is not a noisy spirit, in German poltergeist means noisy mind, not spirit. So your geist is your mind. So it's a disturbed mind poltergeist. And that's really what happens and happens a lot when. One of my famous cases was a family who had split, when the dad left hauntings happened in the house, the little boys were seeing men standing in the room at night. The mother was terrified because the children were terrified. Her fear then infused the children and fear just grew and then they started to back up each other's stories. This thing lifted and flew the boy levitated. None of that happened, but in their heads it did. And they believed it. And the moment we were able to dial back to what actually happened, they wanted there to be a man in the room, they were missing the dad. There was the absence of a man. And we worked with psychologists as well as mediums, which I'm very proud to see I was allowed to do because we worked as a collective to help people not create phenomena. My job is to take fear away from people, no add any of it. So I'm a safe medium when it comes to things that I'll I'll take away anxieties and fears. I'll never add them.
Dr. Lotte [00:40:47] And so when people die, do they in your in your world, do the spirit goes straight to heaven or is there something called like the in-between that you have to help the spirit get to the other side or do you feel like they just get to the other side?
Gordon Smith [00:41:04] You know Lotte I think everybody has their own idea of heaven. So for some, heaven would be to meet their husband. For some heaven would be to meet their parents. For some heaven would be in a place in the country and a palace world, will have an idea of heaven. For me, I am more Buddhist than anything. So for me it's just a change of state. I change my state to the next state. That's says a Bardo, he goes through another thing. But there'll be a death experience. And the death experience will be a quickening. Some people, if you've ever had a Near-Death Experience, it's like going through a tunnel of light. They say, "No, it's speeding up, speeding up, speeding up." So your vibration is quickening quickening. The brain, while it's still connected picks up it's traveling because it's only thing the brain can do with it. "Where am I going?" You're not actually going anyway, you're going out. You're going faster, faster, faster, faster, faster. So that's what happens as we start to die. And then there's a moment when the death experience, as you leave the physical world and the brain shuts down, then it's the it would be the equivalent of having a beautiful out-of-body experience. So you would emerge, like a butterfly from a chrysalis. That's what it would feel like all of a sudden. The small world you occupied, which you thought was everything, is down there and you're up there looking. That's the experience, that transformation of chrysalis to butterfly as human consciousness, to static consciousness. Absolutely absolute.
Dr. Lotte [00:42:34] I love that.
Gordon Smith [00:42:34] Sense of liberation. Yeah.
Dr. Lotte [00:42:35] It's really I mean, yeah, because when you're outside the body, you have access to everything.
Gordon Smith [00:42:40] Everything, yeah.
Dr. Lotte [00:42:40] It's just so different because your body, we're just in this little tiny compartment, but it's like a chrysalis. Such a good analogy. And the butterfly coming out and seeing all the other things that he couldn't see when he was in the chrysalis. That's very much like how I see my life.
Gordon Smith [00:42:56] So whenever I look at somebody's suffering, you know, I look at when my dad was dying and I was my dad wanted me to be with him for the last week, which I did. And another wonderful honor in my life to sit with your father. You know, the man who taught you not to be afraid when you were a wee boy, he taught you how to tie your tie and tie your shoelaces, tell the time. And here's this man who was strong, and all of a sudden you are caring for him. And because of what I do, he loved that I could talk to him each night and we would walk together and I said come on and just keep walking Dad. And then one day I said, "You're just gonna go." And he said, "I know, son. I can feel it." He says "I'm not afraid of this." and I said "Good for you." And that was a beautiful thing because and my dad was very crippled with his joints and things, so he couldn't move. And I just had this beautiful vision as I left him, of him just like the butterfly and that all that pain dissolving back to the earth and him just liberated and free, just heading to whatever, but heading on, call it that, there doesn't need to be a heaven as a station or an inbetween place, you travel on and in the words of Albus Dumbledore. From Harry Potter, "Where are you traveling? I'm traveling on." And that's really it! Travel on!
Dr. Lotte [00:44:14] I love it. Another common question that people always ask is if people are bad people when they're here on Earth, do they go to hell or do they go to heaven? Are my, you know, are they okay on the other side? What do you have to say to that?
Gordon Smith [00:44:31] Well, again, um, people are bad, people are bad to each other, and it's only in this form we can be bad. So So it's the most dense realm. We're dense. So when we do dense things, so when somebody who's died has done bad, they're going to have to see not what they've done, not just with everyone, but the effect. So the whole karmic chain, you know, it was like when one lovely gentleman I helped with his daughter killed herself after her husband was murdered in the street in Philadelphia. And the man very bravely went to the prison to speak to the the guys who killed his son in-law and then eventually forced the daughter to kill us off. And he sat and told him everything that happened to his family since the death. And these men, young men, they said they were just crying. He said, but I had to do it. And I think it started a whole program of parents of, you know, victims of crime going in the prisons he began all of this. And it was just a thing you had to tell them. You didn't just kill one man. You've destroyed a family. So from the other side, that butterfly experience. Wonderful. If you haven't left some really bad garbage behind, you're going to see that and that will affect where you're going on. Now, I don't give hell any credence because I think that's a religious idea and it's made up. But I think a heavy conscience. You know, if you've done something Lotte and you think, "Oh, I wish I hadn't done that." And that's just a little thing. Imagine you could see the effect of something bad you'd done. Your conscience would become so dense, like a boulder, like a stone. And therefore, that is what you're going to have to work through from now on. Well, what would that look like if it was born again? Think about it.
Dr. Lotte [00:46:25] Yeah. So do you believe that we reincarnate?
Gordon Smith [00:46:29] I think I just said that, yeah. Laughter. Yes, I do. And I do because I-
Dr. Lotte [00:46:33] And do we bring that experiences from our past lives with us? If we were a bad guy in past life, now we come back, do we then-
Gordon Smith [00:46:40] Well I think, well I think that's the thing. Do you want an accumulation of your karma? So you being born where you were born, the life you're living and that, you've done something good before, you may have done something bad before quite a while back, but it looks like you've worked it out. So you look at things like that, people can have good karma because they have been kind and generous and whatnot, and then that improves that lightens the load. So the conscience, lightens, lightens, lightens, until it can house itself in a better life. Ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance causes so much damage. And this is why we're trying to wake people up. We're trying to elect people enlightened enough so that they don't keep doing these things, and letting people see that one action you did by hurting one person, you've destroyed a family. I mean, so but that is somebody who's spiritually closed, spiritually ignorant. So it's opening their spirituality, which that lovely gentleman from Philadelphia that he went and said, "Look, this isn't even payback or punishment. I just need you to know the full responsibility." So if you're on a spiritual path, you have to take responsibility for your karma. People who are not, they'll make mistakes all over the place, and in a world like this they will cause things, but they will become a very distorted version of what they were before in another life. And they will have no option. They will be pulled in through the wheel of Samsara. They just get straight back in again. So no time, just back in and a mass of whatever your own creation is. And if that's the veil, that's veil.
Dr. Lotte [00:48:25] Well, it's been a pleasure, I know we're we're going on like 45, 50 minutes now, so! Laughter.
Gordon Smith [00:48:31] I have totally enjoy it! Just being able to talk freely is so nice and relaxed.
Dr. Lotte [00:48:37] Yeah, it's been a great.
Gordon Smith [00:48:38] I've loved it.
Dr. Lotte [00:48:38] It's just been so lovely to have you on the podcast!
Gordon Smith [00:48:41] Anyday.
Dr. Lotte [00:48:41] And I want to make sure you get your information out, how people can find you and work with you and take your classes. Do you have a website?
Gordon Smith [00:48:49] My website is, I can't remember my website! Laughter. GordonSmithMedium.com. Yeah, www.GordonSmithMedium.com. I am hopeless. I'm the worst self publicist. Honestly, I forget everything I do. So I think that's my website!
Dr. Lotte [00:49:06] We'll make sure to put it in the podcast notes!
Gordon Smith [00:49:09] Sure, no problem.
Dr. Lotte [00:49:09] And so that people can find it and you know, go check out all his books that he's written, it's just fascinating the amount of information then that are available in in the books that you wrote about everything, how to be a Medium, what is the spirit world like and the animals, everything. So it's been such a pleasure to have you as a guest on the podcast today. Is there any particular message that you would want to give to the listeners?
Gordon Smith [00:49:39] Yeah, I think so. And I think really it's about getting above your fears, one of the biggest hurdles we have in this life. Fear physically is cancer known to mankind or womankind. It's something that we should look at from from a distance and say, "Why am I afraid?" That's not your experience here. See it from a higher perspective and just think being afraid just means you're lacking love at that time. So find the love, because everyday has that. Look for love and get rid of fear.
Dr. Lotte [00:50:14] That's great, that's a great advice because that prevents a lot of people from following their path, which often comes from childhood and the incarnation and the karma and the ancestor we talked about earlier. But to, you know, to find that path within themselves and heal their own lives so they can go on and and do the things that they incarnated to do in this-
Gordon Smith [00:50:36] Absolutely.
Dr. Lotte [00:50:36] In this life. So again, it's been a pleasure to have you as a guest. Thank you, so much!
Gordon Smith [00:50:42] You're a star! Thank you very much Lotte, it's been an absolute honor.
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