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Creating Remission for Cancer and Chronic Disease with Karla Mans Giroux

October 28, 2023

 
 
 
 

About Karla Mans Giroux

Karla Mans Giroux – Co-Director of the Radical Remission Project, Co-Founder of Health Navigators, A Virtual Cancer Wellness Community, and a holistic cancer health coach, educator, and speaker – is a radical remission survivor living with stable metastatic breast cancer (MBC). Karla was originally diagnosed with breast cancer in 2003 and underwent a mastectomy, chemo, and radiation. Eleven years later, in late 2014, she received a metastatic breast cancer diagnosis. This diagnosis did not align with her goal of living to be 100+, so she decided to do all that she could, to manage this challenge. Karla embarked on a holistic healing journey to help herself regain optimal health and longevity. With her integrative approach to healing, she is blessed to report “no evidence of disease” since 2016! Her passion has led her to share what she has learned so that everyone with a diagnosis can have a better chance of overcoming the odds. Karla received her health coaching certification from the Wisdom of the Whole Coaching Academy as well as the Radical Remission Project and is nationally board certified by the National Board of Health & Wellness Coaches (NBHWC). She Co-Founded the Health Navigators, a Virtual Cancer Wellness Community in 2020. As Co-Director of the Radical Remission Project, and as a Certified Radical Remission Workshop Instructor & Health Coach, it is Karla’s mission to share the powerful benefits of the Radical Remission healing factors with the world.

Links & Resources

Contact Karla at: 847-306-9599 | Karla@RadicalRemission.com

Website for The Radical Remission Project: www.radicalremission.com

Follow The Radical Remission Project on Instagram & Facebook.

Website for Health Navigators: www.healthnavs.com - Use coupon Freeintrokarla for a free discovery session

Follow Health Navigators on Instagram.

Book Links - Radical Remission: Surviving Cancer Against All Odds & Radical Hope.

Follow Along With The Episode Transcript

 

Dr. Lotte | Intro [00:00:00] Welcome to Dr. Lotte: Science with Soul, the podcast that transcends the boundaries between science and spirituality. I'm Dr. Lotte, your host, a Physician, Medical and Psychic Medium, Ancestral Healer, Keynote Speaker and Award Winning Author of Med School After Menopause The Journey of My Soul. This podcast finds its roots in my own extraordinary life experiences. Through my personal odyssey I have discovered our profound connection within a divine tapestry of existence. I have traversed the realms of illness, healing and transformation, propelled by two Near-Death Out-of-Body Experiences that bestowed upon me the extraordinary gifts of clairvoyance, clairaudience, and clairsentice. Guided by this sacred calling I embraced the pursuit of medical school at the age of 54. Prepare to be uplifted, transformed, and awakened to create a path to healing your own life physically, emotionally and spiritually by bridging the gap between science and soul.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:01:20] Welcome to Dr. Lotte Science with Soul. I'm Dr. Lotte and the host of this podcast. Today, I am very excited to introduce a very special guest, Karla Mans Giroux, and she has had quite the journey herself through life. And what came out of this journey is very exciting and I can't wait for her to share it with all of you. So Karla Mans Giroux, Co-Director of the Radical Remission Project, Co-Founder of Health Navigators, a virtual cancer wellness community and a holistic cancer health coach, educator and speaker, is a radical remission survivor living with stable metastatic breast cancer. Karla was originally diagnosed with breast cancer in 2003 and underwent a mastectomy, chemo and radiation. 11 years later, in late 2014, she received the metastatic breast cancer diagnosis. This diagnosis did not align with her goal of living to be 100 plus years, so she decided to do all that she could to manage this challenge. Karla embarked on a holistic healing journey to help herself regain optimal health and longevity. With her integrative approach to healing, she is blessed to report no evidence of disease since 2016. Her passion has led her to share what she learned so that everyone with a diagnosis can have a better chance of overcoming the odds. Karla received her health coaching certification from the Wisdom of the Whole Coaching Academy, as well as the Radical Remission project and is nationally board certified by the National Board of Health and Wellness Coaches. SheCco-Founded Health Navigators, a virtual cancer wellness community, in 2020 as Co-Director of the Radical Remission Project and as a Certified Radical Remission workshop instructor and health coach. It is Karla's mission to share the powerful benefits of the Radical Remission healing factors with the world. So welcome, Karla, it's such an honor to have you as a guest today.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:03:41] Thank you, Dr. Lotte. It's a pleasure to be here.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:03:44] So I can't wait for you to share all this information. How did the radical remission research begin?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:03:50] So Dr. Kelly Turner did the research as part of her dissertation at the University of California, Berkeley, and she had gotten interested, she was an oncology social worker and had gotten interested in helping people with cancer and started to get upset with, you know, people were dying and she wanted to find a way to help. And she heard about one spontaneous remission story and she said, "well, why aren't why aren't we studying this person? Why didn't we find out what they did?" And she found as she started to dig in, there were a lot of spontaneous remission stories in the medical community. But because they're not really talked about much or studied much, this became her passion to dig in and research, and so she spent a year traveling the world talking to radical remission survivors. She calls it radical remission, lovingly changed from spontaneous remission because she found out that these people did a lot of work to find remission. And so she ended up interviewing, surveying, talking to 1500 plus survivors and their healers. And what came out of that research were many different healing modalities that people were using, but ten of them were common among every single one of those 1500 plus people. And so she then went on to look for the independent research that supported why that particular healing factor might actually have something to do with boosting the immune system.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:05:33] Wow, that's fascinating, and what a drive for her to just say "I'm going to go find out why it is", right? That's the wish we all had, what is it that creates the healing in some people? So these ten healing factors that were uncovered, can you talk about what these factors are?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:05:55] Yeah, absolutely. And I'll just say that in her first book, it was a New York Times Best Seller back in 2015, Radical Remission had nine healing factors. And then in 2020, she wrote a follow up book called Radical Hope, which added that 10th factor. And the 10th factor is exercise and movement. And what she learned was that people in that first book, in that first batch of interviews and studies weren't able to move their bodies because many of them had tried conventional treatment. It had failed them, sent them home on hospice, and so they did what they could. And of course, they couldn't exercise in the traditional sense of the word. So they didn't think of it as exercise. But when she went back to look at those interviews and the information and she found that they were all moving their body as much as they could, when they could. So in that first book, she really talked to people who took either a conventional approach and it failed. So they went and tried something else or people that just started out taking an alternative approach. And then in the second book, she adds, in that third category of people like myself who take an integrative approach. And so the ten healing factors I've mentioned, exercise and movement, the other two physical factors are changing your diet and taking herbs and supplements. And then the other seven are emotional and spiritual factors. They're not physical factors. So that might be a little surprising for some people. But when it comes to the rest of them, empowerment, intuition, releasing suppressed emotions, increasing positive emotions, deepening your your social support, strong reasons for living and a deepening of your spirituality or your connection to something bigger than yourself. I think I got all ten of them there.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:08:00] Oh, it's absolutely fascinating. I mean, it's what I it's a lot of what I do to with my work and how and I can see, how entangled we are not just with our own emotions, but with our ancestors. As you know, we now have evidence that we passed the emotions down on the DNA and combined with our own experiences and the way we see the world. But once you I think that I mean, it's so important what you're talking about, because how could we create healing? You can't just work on the physical. I feel like if you just work on the physical, it's somehow is going to come back. You have to work on on all the different components of our being and we're not just this little machine walking around, right? We are spiritual creatures in a physical body, and so we have to, I can't wait, I mean, your work is so important to to integrate that. I wish it was more common and that's what was actually taught in medical school. But medical school is so evidence based on the physical only because is harder to prove, and we don't have enough research yet to to prove the emotional components. But it's coming, and we know we know that it's a it's a big, important factor. So how do the factors make a difference in overcoming these odds?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:09:26] Yes. So by utilizing these ten healing factors, all of those radical remission survivors are able to really help themselves find healing, whether it's the need to release those suppressed or negative emotions that we're holding on to in our body, or we just need to find the right social support. And each of these ten healing factors really does help boost the immune system. And when you read the book, or if you take a workshop, which all of the certified radical remission teachers coaches offer the workshop, you will find that these factors have a way of releasing a flood of happy hormones, right? All the good hormones. We don't want more cortisol, we don't want that stress hormone flooding our body. And so if we can counteract it because we will have it sometimes, right? Stress is just a natural part of life. But if we can counteract it and we can utilize those healing hormones to boost our immune system, that's going to help the body heal itself. And the body is capable of healing. And we know also from this research and the independent research that there is a very strong mind body connection. And so we always tell people, if your mind is that powerful, why not use it for good and healing versus for something more negative and not so beneficial?

 

Dr. Lotte [00:11:00] Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. I think it's so important that mindset is we know that from research to in all the intention experiments and Lynne McTaggart's work and that's been going on for years. I mean, we're talking 30, 40 years of research. We know the power of the mind. But I know I think what you're talking about, to increase the odds of actually to create healing, you have to integrate all of the different pieces you have to heal. I mean, you've got a physical problem. So I always tell people, use what you've got in a physical world, whatever that is, surgery, chemo, radiation, supplements, vitamins, and then add all the other things. So I know you went through a journey as well as we learned in the bio. And how did you how did you come across this information when you were healing? What led you down this path? You know, you say I'm going to be at least 100 years old, right? I've got to do something!

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:12:04] I did have that goal!

 

Dr. Lotte [00:12:05] How did you stumble on this all? How did you find your way through all the different things? I mean, there are things out there that doesn't work so well. How did you find it all?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:12:12] Right. Well, I initially had an early stage breast cancer diagnosis in 2003, and I did that conventional approach, did a little bit of acupuncture, you know, maybe a little bit of herbs and supplements after, right? The conventional docs let me go from the chemo and such, but I really didn't know that there was anything more. But in 2014, 11 years after the initial diagnosis, I received that metastatic diagnosis. And of course, I thought that was my death sentence. I thought that was the end of me. And I was very blessed to have a conventional oncologist tell me this is a chronic disease we can manage.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:12:57] Oh! Well, all righty, then! We're going to manage the hell out of this because I plan to live to be 100 plus healthy and sane, and this is not going to stop me. So I knew that I had to change things that I hadn't changed previously with the original diagnosis. I knew that if if I wanted to get rid of cancer, I had to change the environment in which it was growing. So I went right back to my therapist who I'd taken a holiday break from, and I said, "I need you." And she happened to know a cancer coach. So she connected me with someone to help coach me. And I started changing my diet, taking herbs and supplements, detoxing my life, my health care products, my, you know, health and beauty and home care products, all of that, all the detoxing, detoxing my life from stress and people and all of that. And I had a very big global job. Corporate America traveling a lot, lots of stress, lots of work hours. And I took that I took that leave of absence. And I said, I'm focusing on me now. And when I did go back to that corporate job, it was in a very different way. I did go back for a few more years, but it was on my terms with boundaries and I was lucky enough to have worked for that company for 18 years and was able to come back in and say, yeah, this, this is what I'm doing. And so when I initially got that diagnosis and knew I needed to do everything, I relied on my background of project management and change management to really make myself a project, like I am now the project, my healing is the project. And that cancer coach helped me a lot. And a few months later, I don't know exactly where or when I came across the book Radical Remission, but it was published in 2015. I found it in 2016 and when I went through the table of Contents, which is basically each chapter is one of the ten factors or one of the nine at that time. And I just went through it and thought, check, check, check. I've done that, I've done that, I've done that, and I'm like "Ooh, what's this one? I need to look at this a little more. I need to dig into that a little more".So it was really affirming that I was on the right path, and gave me additional information to help me go deeper or to look at something I hadn't realized might be able to help me. And of course, I quickly realized I wanted to take the workshop and again was blessed to be able to get in on one of Dr. Kelly Turner's last workshops that she taught in 2018 and then knew immediately I wanted to go to the teacher training in 2019 and 2019, lined up my life perfectly with the corporate job saying, "Oh, we're going to leave Chicago and go to Boston. Do you want to come with us?" Karla said, "No, thanks". 18 years of having worked for them, big fat severance package, teacher training took place, National Board of Health and Wellness coach testing took place, and I launched myself on this path of being a holistic cancer health coach.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:16:06] Wow. It's just amazing. What an amazing journey. And do you ever feel like, that journey was meant to be in some way?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:16:14] Oh, absolutely. Because everything lined up so nicely. Like, if I hadn't gotten that severance package because my company wanted to leave town, I don't know that I would have had the the the guts to just leave, right? Walk away from, you know, a big corporate paycheck and go do something that's more heart centered and definitely pays less but is much more fulfilling. And I think it's made a huge difference in my healing journey as well, because I'm not stressed out about the work I do. I get to do work that I love to do and connect with people in a very different way than I was able to in the corporate world.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:16:58] It's such a great, it's such a fantastic story. And it's like how I mean, you had to go through all that and all the hardships of being sick and all the struggles and the emotional struggles that comes with that. But then now to be able to turn it around and then give back to other people that are going through what you went through. And I always feel like there is a reason why we we have our hardships in life.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:17:47] Agreed.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:17:47] There is always a reason. You don't see the reason when you're when you're experiencing the hardships. But later on it goes, it makes sense when you look back why you had to go through certain things. So you talk about herbs and supplements. Are there different herbs and supplements for different types of cancer or?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:17:48] Absolutely there are. And I we always recommend to people that they find somebody that can help them with the herbs and supplements they need a practitioner who is licensed and appropriate to help them work through that and what they need. Different diagnoses need different herbs and supplements. Different bodies need herbs and supplements. I always tell people if I had a twin sister who also had metastatic breast cancer same day that I was diagnosed with it, she would still need something different than what I need. And it's better to have someone that you can work with that can help you test you, assess, you know, and then give you the right herbs and supplements for you. So I don't typically share what I do, but what we know from the radical remission research is that there were three different types of supplements that every one of the survivors used. It was supplements to boost the immune system, right? To detoxify the system and to aid the body in digestion, you know, processes appropriately. Right? So we need to be able to digest our nutrients and make the most use of them. So those three categories came up in every single interview Dr. Turner conducted. And of course, then there are other things specific to your situation, your DNA, etc..

 

Dr. Lotte [00:19:10] So did she, I know she traveled everywhere. Did she go to a lot of different countries?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:19:15] She did. She went to ten different countries to interview survivors and their healers. And then she did a lot more surveys and interviews over the phone. And um, it took her 15 years to put all of this together, it was a one year of traveling around the world to talk to people.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:19:34] Wow. That's fascinating. It's also interesting that even though she went around the world, she still came to the conclusion of those ten factors being so similar across the board. It didn't really matter where they grew up, what country, the culture. Right? It came down to those ten factors. We're we're so similar, but yet so different.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:20:00] Right. Well, and we all have, you know, a need for spirituality or for some sort of connection. If you're a an atheist and you don't believe in the spiritual realm, you you still have a connection to something bigger than yourself. Right? Whatever you want to call that. And we all have an intuition and we all experience emotions and we need to make sure we're feeling happy as much as we can and releasing the negative ones as much as we can. So yeah, it it was fascinating that all the different people she talked to because she ultimately, I think, came up with 75 different healing factors. But these were the ten common factors.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:20:41] Wow. And I know you talk about the emotions. Did you ever read the book When The Body Says No by Gabor Mate?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:21:51] Yes! Awesome book.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:21:51] He talks about that. He talks about the breast cancer and how they were, they wrote, they had questionnaires, and the women that had suspicions for breast cancer, but they hadn't done the biopsy yet, and they would answer the questions on this questionnnaire. And they got really good at deciding who was going to have a positive biopsy for cancer, for breast cancer, just based on the answers on the questionnaire. So, I mean, it's fascinating.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:21:51] It is.

 

[00:21:51] Cause you talk about the emotions and but it shows, you know, from research the way we process emotions, it makes us more likely candidates to have cerain types of diseases and how important it's such an importnt component of you can't just go through, you know, the chemo, radiation and all that. You have to work on, like you said, the emotions and the spiritual aspects and and everyhting around you.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:21:52] Yeah.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:21:53] And I know. Right in part of my my whole journey was learning to love myself, to accept myself exactly as I was. You know, I was a validation seeker. I needed people to validate me externally. I needed the Gold Star, right? I needed to know I was attractive from the men I dated or a good worker from the bosses I worked for. And and this this diagnosis really woke me up to digging deeper into my inner life, my internal life and my emotions. And, and what was I holding on to and why? And to learn to love myself. And um, it is so important. And we know from Traditional Chinese Medicine that emotions can cause blockages, right? So it may not be a proven scientific evidence based fact for the conventional medical world, but tradition, you know, Traditional Chinese Medicine is thousands of years old. And those blockages really do cause problems in our bodies. And it is fascinating when you dig into some of the different work others have done to look at that. And so it's about really feeling all of the emotions, feeling them all, acknowledging them all, even those emotions that we call the negative emotions. They're not negative. There's no good or bad emotion. There are just emotions. And all of those emotions are messengers. They're just here to tell you something. So take fear, for example. We all get a diagnosis, all of us, to get a diagnosis, have fear, right? We all get terrified of this diagnosis and what it means. But fear is a useful emotion to have, if a train is about to run you down or a truck is coming up over the curb at you, whatever it might be, you want fear to warn you of that. So let's not call fear a bad negative emotion. Fears just a messenger. So I encourage people in my coaching practice to sit with their fear, to really get to know it, have a cup of tea with fear, have a conversation with fear, ask it. What is it here to tell you? What does it want you to know? And then reassure it that you heard that fear, that you heard what it had to say and that it's okay fear, you can you can be you know, you can relax now, me and my higher power, we got this. Let me know if something else comes up.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:24:22] That's, that's just great advice. I love it because it's so important to work through all those different layers um, and we have all these different emotions, right? The fear, the terror, the grief, the sadness. I mean, it just goes on and on and on -

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:24:49] And anger, yeah!

 

Dr. Lotte [00:24:49] Right? That sort of gets stuck and create blockages in the body. And I know they did a Harvard pilot study.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:24:50] Oh, yes!

 

Dr. Lotte [00:24:50] Yeah. Can you talk about that?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:24:52] Oh, exciting. So, so Harvard reached out to Dr. Turner they wanted to do a pilot study, which meant that they were surveying people before and after they did a radical remission workshop. So they filled out the survey beforehand. They filled it out another after about a month after and then six months after. And we're just now getting some news from Harvard that says the results are showing significant positive impact. And so that study information should be published in a peer reviewed journal sometime within the next, hopefully 6 to 9 months.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:25:32] Wow, that's really exciting!

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:26:00] It is!

 

Dr. Lotte [00:26:00] It's always exciting when a big school like that uh, get a hold of this information and then because it's not until it gets into a school like that, that it gets noticed and it gets noticed in a such in a different way, especially when it's a big school like Harvard.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:26:00] Right.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:26:00] Because people listen to that. Medical school listens.They want to be, you know, part of that wave of the new information that's coming. So that is very exciting.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:26:00] Yes, it is!

 

Dr. Lotte [00:26:02] Yeah. And so people who are listening and they're thinking, well, you know, I have cancer or I know somebody who has cancer, how can they. What can they do? Where should they start?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:26:14] Yeah. So they could start with RadicalRemission.com. They could start by reading one of the two books, Radical Remission or Radical Hope. Both are also available on audio read to you by the author. And Dr. Turner has a lovely voice, and um you can attend a workshop. So we have coaches that have been certified. There's people around the world. We have about 120 coaches around the world and you can find somebody that matches up with your diagnosis or just sounds like the right person for you or lives near you. But most of them are offering their services virtually, or some of us also in person. Some of us teach the workshop. There's on the RadicalRemission.com website, a place where you can find a coach and a place where you can find a workshop. And my partner and I in Health Navigators, we offer the workshops on a pretty continuous basis virtually. So it's a five week virtual workshop that covers all ten of the healing factors, and what we're doing in the workshop is not only telling you a little bit more about the factor, but you know why it can be so helpful. We're asking you to do an activity, it's an experiential workshop where you are looking at how can you implement this into your life? How is this going to work for you? And we asked you to put together your own game plan personalized to you. What's your one week, one month and six month goal? And we want it to be a micro goal that really helps you. So find a workshop or a coach or read either of the books and that'll get you started and you'll be so inspired. There's so many great stories in both books and in the second book, it's all different stories, and it's stories about people that are overcoming diagnoses other than cancer. So people with autoimmune disorders or M.S., even Alzheimer's. So it's it's very inspiring to read or listen to the books. And Dr. Turner did a ten part docu series as well. So you can actually watch the docu series to learn more about it and be inspired by those survivors.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:28:29] Wow, and so the book has all these stories about cancer survivors and immune system and MS,  and what if somebody is listening and say, well, I have this, you know, unusual diagnosis and it's a chronic illness, or it could be MS or it could be CVID or something. Can they also scheduled to be coached or is it just for cancer patients?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:28:55] No, absolutely. You can any any any diagnosis that you have is welcome, right? To the workshop and to the coaches. Now, you might do the discovery session with the coach and find out for sure, would they be willing to help you with this? But many of our coaches are also practitioners. They might be an RN in or an M.D. or a Naturopath or a Therapist or a Mental Health Counselor, you know, of some sort. And so it's good to go and look at someone that you think would meet your needs and do a discovery session with them to find out a little bit more about it and see if that's somebody you would want to work with, and if they're willing to work with you. But absolutely, these healing factors can help people with any diagnosis and can even help people to reduce their risk of getting a diagnosis in the future.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:29:48] And so people can sign up, they get a discovery session. What is a discovery session? If that a free session or they pay something?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:29:57] Usually each coach, sorry, each coach offers it a little bit differently. So for myself and my partner, Liz on Health Navigators, we both offer a 30 minute discovery session. And if someone, you know listening now would like to book a session with me, they can just use the coupon code: Free Intro Karla. And if you want to put that in the notes so people see it's Karla with a K, so Free Intro Karla and they can get a free intro session with me. The other coaches might offer a 20 minute session or, you know, another half hour. Everybody's a little bit different because once you're certified by the Radical Remission Project, it's it's your private practice. It's however you want to handle things. But yeah, it's good to check in with a couple of different coaches to see who fits you.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:30:48] So do they just go to RadicalRemission.com?

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:30:52] RadicalRemission.com, and then in the dropdown box, what we do dropdown box there's workshops and there's find a coach. And if you go to the find a coach page, you can search the coaches by language, by location, by keywords. If you're looking for somebody that maybe works with energy healing, you can you can put those keywords in and see who you find.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:31:18] That's amazing. So we're going to make sure to put all the links in the podcast notes so people can easily find you. And I mean, it's just such an amazing thing that you guys are doing to help all these people create healing for for themselves, but also when they heal themselves. I always tell people, when you hear yourself, you also heal people around you because you change in that process.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:31:46] Yeah, that's so true. And I would like to say we do like to clarify for people that healing and cure aren't necessarily the same thing. So for me, with the metastatic diagnosis, the medical community, there's no cure for metastatic breast cancer. I have been healed and I've had seven years with stable, no evidence of disease, right? And so I feel pretty darn good about that, and I plan on keeping it that way for another 45 years or more. And so just to say, though, that some people can be cured but not healed, some people can be healed but not cured, and some people are lucky enough to get both. But we're all on an individual journey and whatever your journey is, healing is always a good idea.

 

Dr. Lotte [00:32:37] That was so great. I don't even have to ask you what's your message to the audience? I think that was a good message to all the listeners out there. And I just want to thank you so much for taking the time to be a guest on the podcast today and and sharing your journey, but also all this wonderful information for all the people out there that are struggling with some type of chronic condition that they need to create healing for. So thank you so much for taking the time.

 

Karla Mans Giroux [00:33:06] It's been my pleasure. Thank you, Dr. Lotte.

 

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